Grupo Venus
Astrological charts, transit forecasts, and compatibility reports via grupovenus.com. Manage multiple people and compare charts conversationally.
Description
name: grupo-venus description: Astrological charts, transit forecasts, and compatibility reports via grupovenus.com. Manage multiple people and compare charts conversationally. license: MIT metadata: {"category":"astrology","api_base":"https://grupovenus.com","author":"https://github.com/apresmoi","homepage":"https://github.com/apresmoi/grupo-venus"} user-invokable: true
Grupo Venus
Use this skill to fetch free astrological charts, transit forecasts, and compatibility reports from grupovenus.com — a classic ASP astrology platform with a rich free tier. Manage multiple people in memory and analyze charts conversationally.
Unofficial skill. Not affiliated with or endorsed by Grupo Venus. Uses the public free tier of grupovenus.com as-is.
Base URL: https://grupovenus.com
No API key required. Data is session-cookie based; person data is stored locally in memory.
People Storage
All person data lives in your memory file. Load it before any operation:
~/.openclaw/workspace/memory/grupo-venus.json
Structure (we use Luis Alberto Spinetta as the example throughout this skill — because he's from another planet):
{
"people": {
"spinetta": {
"name": "Luis Alberto Spinetta",
"birthdate": "1/23/1950 4:35:00 PM",
"city": "Buenos Aires",
"country": "Argentina",
"sex": "H",
"tz_offset": "3",
"lat_dms": "34S35",
"lon_dms": "58W22",
"lat_decimal": -34.5833,
"lon_decimal": 58.3667,
"style": "deep"
}
}
}
sex: H = Hombre (male), V = Varón/Mujer — use H for male, V for female.
tz_offset: Hours from UTC, sign inverted: 3 = UTC-3 (Argentina), -1 = UTC+1 (Madrid).
lat_dms / lon_dms: 34S35 = 34°35′S, 58W22 = 58°22′W. N/S and E/W are explicit.
style: Communication style preference — casual, deep, or practical. See Voice & Style section.
If the file doesn't exist yet, create it with {"people": {}}.
Adding a Person
Step 1 — Look up the city coordinates
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/buscaciudjson.asp?q=CITY&pais=COUNTRY"
Example:
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/buscaciudjson.asp?q=Bahia+Blanca&pais=Argentina"
# → [{"label":"Bahia Blanca, Argentina"}]
This confirms the city/country string the server recognises. Use the exact spelling returned.
Step 2 — Register the person to get coordinates + timezone
The server requires a properly established session with Referer headers. Always use a cookie jar (-c/-b) — manually passing a single ASPSESSION cookie will result in "session expired" errors.
COOKIEJAR=$(mktemp)
# 2a. Establish session
curl -s -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" "https://grupovenus.com/info.asp" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" > /dev/null
# 2b. Load the registration form (sets server-side session state)
curl -s -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" "https://grupovenus.com/personas.asp?nue" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-H "Referer: https://grupovenus.com/info.asp" > /dev/null
# 2c. POST the person data (Referer header is required)
# IMPORTANT: city names with accents must be encoded in iso-8859-1, NOT UTF-8.
# e.g. "Bahía Blanca" → "Bah%EDa+Blanca" (%ED = í in Latin-1, NOT %C3%AD which is UTF-8)
# If the city is not recognized, the server silently assigns wrong/default coordinates.
# Verify by checking that the city and country fields are non-empty in the d0 cookie response.
curl -s -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" -X POST "https://grupovenus.com/ciuda.asp" \
-H "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-H "Referer: https://grupovenus.com/personas.asp?nue" \
--data "urldestino=personas.asp%3Fok&nombre=NAME&DIA=DD&MES=MM&ANO=YYYY&HORA=HH&MINU=MM&08CIUDAD=CITY&14PAIS=COUNTRY&SEXO=H" > /dev/null
# 2d. Follow redirect to personas.asp?ok — the d0 cookie is set here
PERSONAS_RESP=$(curl -si -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" "https://grupovenus.com/personas.asp?ok" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-H "Referer: https://grupovenus.com/ciuda.asp")
The personas.asp?ok response sets two cookies in its headers:
Set-Cookie: d0=NAME;M/D/YYYY H:MM:SS AM/PM;CITY;COUNTRY;SEX;;TZ;latNS;lonEW
Set-Cookie: haycoo=NAME;TZ;DATE;TIMEZONE_NAME;
Extract and URL-decode the d0 value from $PERSONAS_RESP:
D0=$(echo "$PERSONAS_RESP" \
| grep -i 'set-cookie.*d0=' \
| sed 's/.*d0=//I' | cut -d';' -f1 \
| python3 -c "import sys,urllib.parse; print(urllib.parse.unquote(sys.stdin.read().strip()))")
echo "d0 decoded: $D0"
# → NAME ;M/D/YYYY H:MM:SS AM/PM;CITY;COUNTRY;SEX;;TZ;latDMS;lonDMS
Fields (semicolon-separated):
- Field 7:
tz_offset - Field 8:
lat_dms(e.g.38S43) - Field 9:
lon_dms(e.g.62W17)
Convert DMS to decimal for storage:
34S35→-(34 + 35/60)=-34.583358W22→58 + 22/60=58.3667(positive = West, as stored by the server)
Save the full person entry to grupo-venus.json.
Field reference for ciuda.asp POST
| Field | Value |
|---|---|
urldestino |
personas.asp?ok (URL-encoded) |
nombre |
Person's name |
DIA |
Birth day (1–31) |
MES |
Birth month (1–12) |
ANO |
Birth year (4 digits) |
HORA |
Birth hour 0–23 (local time) |
MINU |
Birth minute 0–59 |
08CIUDAD |
City name |
14PAIS |
Country name |
SEXO |
H or V |
Note: The
nom2=nuefield seen in older docs does not exist in the actual form and must be omitted. TheReferer: https://grupovenus.com/personas.asp?nueheader is required — without it the server returns "session expired" even with a valid ASPSESSION cookie.
Building the Cookie String
All report endpoints need the nombre value — the semicolon-delimited person string:
"NAME ;M/D/YYYY H:MM:SS AM/PM;CITY;COUNTRY;SEX;;TZ;latDMS;lonDMS"
Example:
"Luis Alberto Spinetta;1/23/1950 4:35:00 PM;Buenos Aires;Argentina;H;;3;34S35;58W22"
To URL-encode it for a POST body in curl use --data-urlencode:
--data-urlencode "nombre=Luis Alberto Spinetta;1/23/1950 4:35:00 PM;Buenos Aires;Argentina;H;;3;34S35;58W22"
Natal Chart Image
Fetch the natal chart as a PNG image (free, no auth):
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/dibujo.aspx" \
--get \
--data-urlencode "fec=1/23/1950 4:35:00 PM" \
--data-urlencode "aju=3" \
--data-urlencode "ciu=Buenos Aires" \
--data "pais=Argentina" \
--data-urlencode "lat=-34.5833" \
--data-urlencode "lon=58.3667" \
--data-urlencode "nom=Luis Alberto Spinetta" \
--data "bot=atras&idioma=E&CASASPRO=&zodi=T" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-o chart_spinetta.png
| Parameter | Description |
|---|---|
fec |
Birthdate: M/D/YYYY H:MM:SS AM/PM |
aju |
Timezone offset (from person record) |
ciu |
City name |
pais |
Country |
lat |
Latitude decimal (negative = South) |
lon |
Longitude decimal (positive = West, as stored) |
nom |
Person name |
idioma |
E=Spanish, I=English, F=French |
zodi |
T=Tropical, S1=Fagan-Bradley, S2=Lahiri, S3=Sassanian, S4=Krishnamurti, S5=Hipparchos |
Returns Content-Type: image/png. Save to file or display directly.
Transit Forecast Graph
POST to informes3.asp to get a 1-year forecast with all slow-planet transits:
curl -s -X POST "https://grupovenus.com/informes3.asp" \
-H "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
--data-urlencode "nombre=Luis Alberto Spinetta;1/23/1950 4:35:00 PM;Buenos Aires;Argentina;H;;3;34S35;58W22" \
--data "urldestino=informes3.asp" \
--data "INFORMEDESEADO=8" \
--data "DIA1=28&MES1=2&ANO1=2026" \
--data "HORA1=09&MINU1=00" \
--data "tipzod=T&TIC=&idiomas=E"
The HTML response encodes all transit data as title attributes on <img class="barras"> elements:
<img class="barras" src="./fotos/barraSAT.jpg"
title="SATsexMER 4/3/2026 0:0 orbe: 0° 43'"
width=5 height=13>
Parsing transit data
Extract all data points with:
grep 'class="barras"' response.html \
| grep -o 'title="[^"]*"' \
| sed 's/title="//;s/"//'
Each title line has the format:
[r ]CODE DD/MM/YYYY H:MM orbe: D° MM'
rprefix = retrograde transitCODE= transit code (see table below)- date = exact date of this data point (every 2 days)
orbe= orb in degrees/minutes (0°0′ = exact)heightattribute = bar height (1–55), proxy for intensity:intensity = height / 55
The first <a href="sacainter.asp?...cla=CODE..."> before the bars gives you the human label and the code to fetch interpretation.
Report types — forecast period and planets
| INFORMEDESEADO | Server label | Transiting planets | Period | Access |
|---|---|---|---|---|
8 |
1 año Sat-Plu (1 year, Saturn–Pluto) |
SAT, URA, NEP, PLU | 1 year | Free |
-1 |
3 días Lun-Júp (3 days, Moon–Jupiter) |
LUN, SOL, JUP | 3 days | Free |
0 |
1 semana Luna,Sol-Júp (1 week, Moon/Sun–Jupiter) |
LUN, SOL, JUP | 1 week | Free |
1 |
2 semanas Sol-Plu (2 weeks, Sun–Pluto) |
SOL, MAR, JUP, SAT, URA, NEP, PLU | 2 weeks | Free |
7 |
2 años Sat-Plu (2 years, Saturn–Pluto) |
SAT, URA, NEP, PLU | 2 years | Ticket |
6 |
1 año Jup-Plu (1 year, Jupiter–Pluto) |
JUP...PLU | 1 year | Ticket |
4 |
3 meses Mar-Plu (3 months, Mars–Pluto) |
MAR...PLU | 3 months | Ticket |
The free INFORMEDESEADO=8 is the richest free dataset. It includes all transits of the 4 outer planets (SAT, URA, NEP, PLU) to all natal planets (SOL, LUN, MER, VEN, MAR, JUP, SAT, URA, ASC, MC) for 1 full year, with exact peak dates and orb values every 2 days.
Full Report List
Natal Reports
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
50 |
Mi pronóstico para Hoy | Free |
62 |
Carta Natal | Ticket |
66 |
Informe Vocacional | Ticket |
63 |
Informe Infantil | Ticket |
61 |
Carta SuperNatal | Ticket |
65 |
Astrología Espiritual | Ticket |
64 |
Astrología Kármica | Ticket |
69 |
Informe Indra | Free (partial) |
170 |
Carta Natal con Quirón | Free (partial) |
171 |
Informe Infantil coloquial | Free (partial) |
174 |
Vocacional simple | Free |
67 |
Astrología y Tarot | Free (partial) |
945 |
Numerología Básica | Free |
947 |
Numerología Avanzada | Free |
Compatibility (two people required)
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
16 |
De Pareja | Free (partial) |
17 |
De Amistad | Free (partial) |
172 |
De Pareja coloquial | Free (partial) |
90 |
Carta Compuesta | Free (partial) |
Chart Drawings
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
941 |
Dibujo de su Carta Astral | Free → redirects to dibujo0.aspx |
942 |
Dibujo Carta para hoy | Free |
943 |
Superponer dos Cartas | Free |
944 |
Carta Compuesta (drawing) | Free |
Forecast Graphs
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
8 |
1 año Sat-Plu | Free (full data) |
-1 |
3 días Lun-Júp | Free |
0 |
1 semana Luna,Sol-Júp | Free |
1 |
2 semanas Sol-Plu | Free |
199 |
Gráfico pronóstico de pareja | Free |
7 |
2 años Sat-Plu | Ticket |
6 |
1 año Jup-Plu | Ticket |
4 |
3 meses Mar-Plu | Ticket |
Symbolic Predictions
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
13 |
Revolución Solar | Free (partial) |
15 |
Revolución Lunar | Free (partial) |
14 |
Progresiones | Free (partial) |
68 |
Ciudades y Pueblos | Free (partial) |
173 |
Revolución Solar Coloquial | Free (partial) |
Forecasts — Relationship
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
23 |
12 meses, Marte a Plutón | Free (partial) |
199 |
Varios períodos (graph) | Free |
22 |
2 meses, Sol a Plutón | Ticket |
Forecasts — General
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
99 |
1 semana, Luna a Plutón | Ticket |
100 |
2 meses, Sol a Plutón | Ticket |
101 |
7 meses, Marte a Plutón | Ticket |
102 |
18 meses, Júpiter a Plutón | Ticket |
Forecasts — Kármico-Espiritual
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
103 |
4 meses, Sol a Plutón | Ticket |
104 |
7 meses, Marte a Plutón | Ticket |
105 |
1 año, Júpiter a Plutón | Ticket |
Forecasts — Sentimental
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
106 |
4 meses, Sol a Plutón | Ticket |
107 |
1 año, Marte a Plutón | Ticket |
Forecasts — Coloquial
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
108 |
2 meses | Ticket |
109 |
7 meses | Ticket |
110 |
18 meses | Ticket |
Solo quincuncios / Negocios
| ID | Name | Access |
|---|---|---|
126 |
1 año, Marte a Plutón | Free (partial) |
121 |
9 meses, Sol Marte a Plutón | Free (partial) |
Transit Interpretation Texts
For any transit code, fetch 3 different interpretation styles — no auth required:
# General / technical
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/sacainter.asp?tabla=tratsp&cla=SATCUAASC&orb=0" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0"
# Potentials / spiritual
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/sacainter.asp?tabla=starsolues&cla=SATCUAASC&orb=99" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0"
# Colloquial / plain language
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/sacainter.asp?tabla=transiaw&cla=SATCUAASC&orb=99" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0"
The response is HTML. Strip tags and skip the first ~40 lines (boilerplate JS) to get the text:
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/sacainter.asp?tabla=tratsp&cla=CODE&orb=0" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
| iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 \
| sed 's/<[^>]*>//g' \
| grep -v '^[[:space:]]*$' \
| tail -n +40
Transit code reference
Format: [PLANET1][ASPECT][PLANET2]
PLANET1 = transiting planet, PLANET2 = natal planet.
Planet codes:
| Code | Server name | English | Symbol |
|---|---|---|---|
SAT |
Saturno | Saturn | ♄ |
URA |
Urano | Uranus | ♅ |
NEP |
Neptuno | Neptune | ♆ |
PLU |
Plutón | Pluto | ♇ |
JUP |
Júpiter | Jupiter | ♃ |
MAR |
Marte | Mars | ♂ |
VEN |
Venus | Venus | ♀ |
MER |
Mercurio | Mercury | ☿ |
SOL |
Sol | Sun | ☉ |
LUN |
Luna | Moon | ☽ |
ASC |
Ascendente | Ascendant | ↑ |
MC |
Medio Cielo | Midheaven | ⬆ |
Zodiac signs:
| Server name | English | Symbol |
|---|---|---|
| Aries | Aries | ♈ |
| Tauro | Taurus | ♉ |
| Géminis | Gemini | ♊ |
| Cáncer | Cancer | ♋ |
| Leo | Leo | ♌ |
| Virgo | Virgo | ♍ |
| Libra | Libra | ♎ |
| Escorpio | Scorpio | ♏ |
| Sagitario | Sagittarius | ♐ |
| Capricornio | Capricorn | ♑ |
| Acuario | Aquarius | ♒ |
| Piscis | Pisces | ♓ |
Aspect codes:
| Code | Server name | English | Degrees | Symbol |
|---|---|---|---|---|
CJC |
Conjunción | Conjunction | 0° | ☌ |
SEX |
Sextil | Sextile | 60° | ⚹ |
CUA |
Cuadratura | Square | 90° | □ |
TRI |
Trígono | Trine | 120° | △ |
OPO |
Oposición | Opposition | 180° | ☍ |
QUI |
Quincuncio | Quincunx | 150° | ⚻ |
Use these symbols when presenting transit readings to the user. Example: SATCUAASC → ♄ □ ↑ (Saturn square Ascendant).
Examples: SATCUAASC = ♄ □ Ascendant, NEPTRIVEN = ♆ △ ♀, URACJCMER = ♅ ☌ ☿.
Compatibility Reports (Two People)
For synastry, the nombre field must encode both people separated by |:
"Person1 data | Person2 data"
Full example (Pareja, INFORMEDESEADO=16):
P1="Luis Alberto Spinetta;1/23/1950 4:35:00 PM;Buenos Aires;Argentina;H;;3;34S35;58W22"
P2="Charly Garcia;10/23/1951 11:20:00 AM;Buenos Aires;Argentina;H;;3;34S36;58W27"
curl -s -X POST "https://grupovenus.com/informes3.asp" \
-H "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
--data-urlencode "nombre=$P1 | $P2" \
--data "urldestino=informes3.asp&INFORMEDESEADO=16&tipzod=T&TIC=&idiomas=E"
Compatibility report IDs: 16 (pareja, couple), 17 (amistad, friendship), 172 (pareja coloquial, couple casual), 90 (carta compuesta, composite chart).
Zodiac Types
tipzod |
System |
|---|---|
T |
Tropical (default, most common) |
S1 |
Sideral — Fagan Bradley |
S2 |
Sideral — Lahiri |
S3 |
Sideral — Sassanian |
S4 |
Sideral — Krishnamurti |
S5 |
Sideral — Hipparchos |
Standard POST Fields for informes3.asp
| Field | Description |
|---|---|
urldestino |
Always informes3.asp |
INFORMEDESEADO |
Report ID (see tables above) |
nombre |
Person string (semicolon-delimited) |
DIA1 |
Start day for forecast |
MES1 |
Start month |
ANO1 |
Start year |
HORA1 |
Start hour (local time) |
MINU1 |
Start minute |
tipzod |
Zodiac type |
TIC |
Ticket number (leave empty for free reports) |
idiomas |
E=Spanish (Español), I=English, F=French (Français) |
Analysis Patterns
Surface the most intense transits
From a parsed INFORMEDESEADO=8 response, rank transits by bar height (intensity proxy):
- Parse all
title="CODE DATE orbe: D° MM'"lines - Keep the bar
heightattribute for each point - Group by transit code — take
max(height)as peak intensity - Sort descending — top 5 are the dominant themes for the year
The orb is the complement of intensity: 0°0′ = exact = maximum impact, 1°0′ = fading. The height already encodes this visually (max 55px = exact aspect).
Identify timing windows
For each transit code, find the contiguous date range where height > 0. That range is the active window. Multiple windows (direct + retrograde + direct again) appear as separate bar clusters.
Present to the user as:
"Saturn square your Ascendant is active March 8 – April 14, peaks exactly March 22, then returns retrograde August 15 – November 3."
Interpret a transit
For each dominant transit, fetch all 3 interpretation styles and synthesize:
tratsp= technical/classical readingstarsolues= potential/higher-expression readingtransiaw= everyday colloquial reading
Lead with transiaw for casual conversations, tratsp for someone who wants depth.
Compare two charts
- Fetch INFORMEDESEADO=8 for Person A → parse transit codes + windows
- Fetch INFORMEDESEADO=8 for Person B → parse transit codes + windows
- Find overlapping active windows — periods where both people are under major transits simultaneously
- Fetch INFORMEDESEADO=16 or 17 with both persons for the synastry report
- Highlight: shared themes (both under Pluto? both under Neptune?), conflicting energies, supportive overlaps
Today's sky
Use INFORMEDESEADO=-1 (3 días, 3 days) or 0 (1 semana, 1 week) for short-range forecasts. These include faster planets (Moon, Sun, Jupiter). Parse the same way — the bar heights indicate what's exact or approaching today.
Voice & Style
General tone
You're an astrologer who knows their craft but talks like a person, not like a mystical pamphlet. Avoid:
- "the stars are telling you..." → too mystical and cliché
- listing positions in degrees with no context → too raw
- "this is a powerful time for growth" → vague and useless
Instead: be direct, be specific, use the symbols, name the tension or the gift without overselling it.
Per-person styles
Each person in memory has a style field. Always read it before writing a response about them. If it's not set, ask (see Happy Path Step 1).
casual
Like a friend who knows astrology. No jargon, no degrees, no house numbers unless they ask. Lead with feeling and situation, not with planet names.
"Right now something is shaking your sense of identity — who you are and how you show up. It's not comfortable, but it's not pointless either: what's falling apart probably wasn't representing you anymore."
Use transiaw interpretations exclusively. Skip technical terms. Offer depth only if they ask.
deep
Full astrological language: aspects, houses, dignities, orbs, retrograde phases. Use the symbols (♇ ☍ ↑). Mention which interpretation style you're drawing from. Structure the reading clearly.
"♇ Pluto in transit is exactly opposite (☍) your natal ↑ Ascendant at 5°♌ Leo, orb 0°. This is a long-duration transit — active from March 2026 through February 2027, exact peak on 26/3. In house terms, Pluto is transiting your 7th House, focusing the transformation on relationships and how you relate to others."
Fetch and synthesize all 3 interpretation styles (tratsp, starsolues, transiaw). Mention timing windows explicitly.
practical
Skip the poetry, focus on what to do and when. Windows, peaks, warnings. What's favorable, what to watch out for. Calendar-friendly.
"April 3–17: good window to start physical projects or make decisions requiring sustained energy (♄ △ ♂). May 3 – February 2027: long growth period for structured projects — don't rush, consistency wins (♄ △ ♃). Watch June: tension between what you want to change and what the context allows (♄ □ ♅)."
Use only dates, peaks, and a one-line action note per transit. No extended interpretation unless asked.
This is the recommended flow for a first-time reading. Do not dump all available data at once. Each step should feel like a natural conversation beat.
Step 1 — Register and show the chart
After the user provides their birth data, register them (see Adding a Person), save to memory. Before generating any reading, ask for their preferred style if it's not already set:
"How would you like me to read your chart?
- Casual — like a friend who knows astrology, no technical jargon
- Deep — full aspects, houses, and timing
- Practical — straight to the point: what to do and when"
Save the chosen style to their record in memory, then immediately:
-
Fetch and display the natal chart PNG (
dibujo.aspx) -
Write a brief profile — 3–4 sentences max, in plain language. Focus on:
- Sun sign: core identity and drive
- Ascendant: how they show up in the world
- Moon sign: emotional nature
- Any tight conjunctions or stelliums that stand out (e.g. Mars + Jupiter in the same sign)
Example: "You're ♊ Gemini with ♌ Leo rising — quick mind, strong presence. Your ☽ Moon in ♓ Pisces gives you a depth of feeling you don't always show. ♂ Mars and ♃ Jupiter together in ♌ Leo in your 1st House is a lot: energy, ambition, and a real need for what you do to matter."
-
Fetch the 1-year transit graph (
INFORMEDESEADO=8, starting from today) and identify the 2–3 most active transits right now (highestheightvalues in the current month). -
Write a quick current snapshot — what's happening astrologically now, in 2–4 sentences, using the
transiawinterpretation style (colloquial). Fetchsacainter.asp?tabla=transiawfor each active transit and synthesize — don't paste the raw text.Example: "Right now you're in the middle of ♇ Pluto ☍ opposite your ↑ Ascendant — basically a long identity renovation. Things that no longer represent you are falling away, sometimes uncomfortably. At the same time ♄ Saturn is in a harmonious △ transit, so there's structure available if you reach for it."
Step 2 — Offer next steps (short menu, not overwhelming)
After the snapshot, offer at most 3–4 options clearly:
What would you like to explore?
- Year forecast — the most important transits month by month
- A specific transit — if something I mentioned resonated, I can go deeper
- Compatibility — if you have someone in mind, we can compare charts
- Solar return — what this birthday year brings in particular
Don't mention ticket-gated reports unless the user asks for something that requires one.
Past dates:
INFORMEDESEADO=8(1 year) is only free ifDIA1/MES1/ANO1is today or later. For past dates the server returns"Para el resto de opciones necesita obtener un Ticket"(a ticket is required). Do not offer full-year retrospective readings on the free tier.
Step 3 — Go deep on demand
Only when the user asks to explore something specific:
- Fetch all 3 interpretation styles (
tratsp,starsolues,transiaw) for that transit - Synthesize them into a coherent 1–3 paragraph reading
- Mention timing: when is it exact, when does it fade, does it return retrograde
Conversational Suggestions
-
Multiple people stored — offer comparisons: "I also have [name] saved. Want me to compare your charts?"
-
Zodiac type — default to Tropical. Mention Sidereal (Lahiri) only if the user asks.
-
Past dates —
INFORMEDESEADO=8(1 year, slow planets) only accepts dates from today forward on the free tier. Short-range reports (-1,0,1) may work with past dates. -
Language —
idiomas=E(Spanish),I(English),F(French). Match the user's language in your responses regardless of whichidiomasvalue is sent.
Example Workflow
Add a person and fetch their year forecast
# 1. Look up city
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/buscaciudjson.asp?q=Rosario&pais=Argentina"
# 2. Register person with cookie jar (3-step flow required)
COOKIEJAR=$(mktemp)
curl -s -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" "https://grupovenus.com/info.asp" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" > /dev/null
curl -s -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" "https://grupovenus.com/personas.asp?nue" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-H "Referer: https://grupovenus.com/info.asp" > /dev/null
curl -s -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" -X POST "https://grupovenus.com/ciuda.asp" \
-H "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-H "Referer: https://grupovenus.com/personas.asp?nue" \
--data "urldestino=personas.asp%3Fok&nombre=Maria&DIA=15&MES=3&ANO=1992&HORA=14&MINU=30&08CIUDAD=Rosario&14PAIS=Argentina&SEXO=V" > /dev/null
# 3. Get d0 cookie with coordinates from the redirect target
D0=$(curl -si -c "$COOKIEJAR" -b "$COOKIEJAR" "https://grupovenus.com/personas.asp?ok" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-H "Referer: https://grupovenus.com/ciuda.asp" \
| grep -i 'set-cookie.*d0=' \
| sed 's/.*d0=//I' | cut -d';' -f1 \
| python3 -c "import sys,urllib.parse; print(urllib.parse.unquote(sys.stdin.read().strip()))")
echo "d0 decoded: $D0"
# → Maria ;3/15/1992 2:30:00 PM;Rosario;Argentina;V;;3;32S57;60W40
# 4. Fetch 1-year transit graph (no session needed for reports)
curl -s -X POST "https://grupovenus.com/informes3.asp" \
-H "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
--data-urlencode "nombre=Maria;3/15/1992 2:30:00 PM;Rosario;Argentina;V;;3;32S57;60W40" \
--data "urldestino=informes3.asp&INFORMEDESEADO=8&DIA1=1&MES1=1&ANO1=2026&HORA1=00&MINU1=00&tipzod=T&TIC=&idiomas=E" \
-o maria_transits.html
# 5. Extract transit data
grep 'class="barras"' maria_transits.html \
| grep -o 'title="[^"]*"' \
| iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 \
| sed 's/title="//;s/"//' \
| sort -t' ' -k2 -n
# 6. Fetch natal chart PNG
curl -s "https://grupovenus.com/dibujo.aspx" \
--get \
--data-urlencode "fec=3/15/1992 2:30:00 PM" \
--data-urlencode "aju=3" \
--data-urlencode "ciu=Rosario" \
--data "pais=Argentina" \
--data-urlencode "lat=-32.9333" \
--data-urlencode "lon=60.6667" \
--data-urlencode "nom=Maria" \
--data "bot=atras&idioma=E&CASASPRO=&zodi=T" \
-H "User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0" \
-o maria_chart.png
Notes
- The site uses iso-8859-1 encoding. Always pipe through
iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8when reading HTML. - POST data to
ciuda.aspmust also use iso-8859-1 percent-encoding, not UTF-8. For accented characters:í=%ED,á=%E1,é=%E9,ó=%F3,ú=%FA,ñ=%F1. Using UTF-8 encoding (e.g.%C3%ADforí) causes the server to silently ignore the city and assign wrong default coordinates with empty city/country fields in thed0cookie. - There is no server-side rate limiting observed, but be considerate — add a small delay between batch requests.
- Session cookies (
ASPSESSIONID...) are only needed during the registration flow. Report requests (informes3.asp,dibujo.aspx,sacainter.asp) do not need any session cookie. - Always use a cookie jar (
-c/-bflags) for the registration flow. Manually extracting and passing a single ASPSESSION cookie header will fail with "session expired" because the server validates multi-cookie state. - The registration flow is exactly 3 steps before the final
personas.asp?okcall:info.asp→personas.asp?nue→ POSTciuda.asp. Skipping any step causes session expiry. - The
Refererheader is required on both thepersonas.asp?nueGET and theciuda.aspPOST. Without it the server rejects the request. - The
sacainter.aspreferrer check is JavaScript-only — the server serves content regardless of origin. - Ticket-gated reports return HTTP 200 with a plain "Para el resto de opciones necesita obtener un Ticket" message in the body — detect by checking for that string.
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